Night Time Potty Training

Potty training or toilet training – for us, it’s the same. We’ve never really used a potty except for a couple of trials and decided it wasn’t working for us so it’s always been the toilet.

Aristotle has been toilet trained during the day time for a long time. After all our experiences with toilet training, I do believe that the best way to get it done is to dump the diapers (cloth or disposables) and go commando. Being wet makes them uncomfortable and there really is no stronger motivator than that. Even a cloth diaper isn’t quite as effective because little kids are busy people and they hate being interrupted – even to go to the toilet.

The problem we had with night time was that we didn’t want the bed to get wet (we co-sleep with him in a cot flushed against the bed but he often ends up on the bed in the middle of the night) and we didn’t want the mess to clean up. Aristotle is not the neatest of sleepers and can end up in all sorts of funny positions and locations in the course of a night so keeping a rubber mat handy does not help at all – not unless you wrap the entire mattress with it. So we kept the diapers for night time – just in case. We figured that he was already toilet-trained during the day time (even when napping) so perhaps it was only a matter of time before the night would come in control.

What we discovered was that once the diaper was on, Aristotle would pee into it rather than go to the toilet. This happened even when he was awake. So long as there was a diaper, he would rather pee into it than make the annoying trip to the toilet. Our son who was completely toilet trained during the day time was consciously choosing to pee into the diaper rather than using the toilet. When queried, he would brush it off with a feeble, “Oh, I forgot.” It was hard to believe when he never forgot if there was no diaper.

We realised that the only way to get the job done was to ditch the diapers and sacrifice the mattress. It was painful…

I read up a little on night time potty training and noted some advice stating that if your child goes to sleep at 8pm, you should wake him up at 11pm and 4am to go to the toilet. We tried that but it didn’t seem to be working. Sometimes he’d make it, sometimes, he would pee even before 11pm. In the end, I was hardly sleeping because I was either getting up to bring him to the toilet or to change him if he wet the bed and to slip a towel under him so he wasn’t lying in a wet spot. It was like the early days after bringing baby back home from the hospital all over again.

After a while, we decided not to change him. We would wait until he woke up from being wet before we changed him so that he could feel the discomfort. Yes, it was horrible, but he didn’t seem to be aware that he’d peed if I changed him while he slept. Even then we still had a lot of trouble because he slept like the dead and just would not wake up.

Just when I thought all was lost, he started waking up for the early morning pee around about 4-5am on his own. As long as we helped to get him up for the first pee, he could manage the second one on his own. I read somewhere that you should not carry your child to the toilet but make him walk there so he is aware. I would carry him out of bed (because shaking him to wake up didn’t work) and put him on his feet before nudging him to walk to the toilet on his own.

When he was consistently dry for a number of nights in a row, we decided to stop waking him up to see if he would be able to get himself up. He did and all was good until tonight. Just when I thought we were on the home stretch, he peed even before 10pm! What went wrong? We got lax with the fluid control before bed time. At dinner, he drank a big bowl of soup and had ice cream, then went to sleep early.

So here’s what worked for us:

  1. No diapers. Not even cloth diapers.
  2. Cut back the fluid intake at night. It really depends on the time that your child goes to sleep. On a weeknight, we usually have dinner at 6pm and the kids are in bed by 7:30pm. That means controlled fluid intake during dinner and no fluids after.
  3. Don’t forget the last pee before going to bed – even if they don’t feel like going, just get them to empty the bladder.
  4. Initially, wake them up at about 11pm to pee (give or take – you can adjust your timing accordingly over a few nights to see what’s a good time to wake your child).
  5. You can do a second toilet trip in the early morning. Again, I think the timing really depends on your child. The advice I read was to do it at 4am. I found I had to do it at around 2am (but that was before we cut back on the dinner time fluid intake).
  6. Once you’re making it through the night without incident for a while, drop one toilet trip and see if your child will hold or wake up on his own.
  7. Once you’re getting through the night without incident for a while, drop the other toilet trip and see if your child will wake on his own to go to the toilet.

Whether you choose to toilet train at this point or to wait until your child is older is really up to you. One of the arguments against this method for night time toilet training is that you are disrupting your child’s sleep cycles. You decide when to wake him so you could be waking him during a deep sleep cycle. I do believe it affects the quality of sleep because he did seem more tired during the day time when I was waking him up twice a night to go to the toilet. In retrospect maybe it might have been better to wait a bit, but we had our reasons for wanting him toilet trained overnight.


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Baby No. 2: Cloth Diapers and Elimination Communication

When Gavin was a baby, I used Mommy’s Touch diapers during the day when we were at home, and Mamy Poko diapers while we were out and overnight.  I also practiced partial EC (elimination communication) with him.  By about 7 months, we were consistently pooped trained and occasionally catching his pee in the toilet.  Although we had our progressions and regressions, Gavin is completely toilet-trained except for night time.  We were on cloth pull-up diapers at night at one stage but reverted back to Mamy Poko after a string of night time leaks (Gavin was consuming a lot of liquid at night and the diapers just couldn’t hold the volume).

With Gareth, I’m afraid we’re not progressing quite as well.  To date, I have only caught his pee in the toilet bowl a few times and we caught his poop once.  I often find Gareth sitting in a poopy diaper before I even realise he needed the toilet.  The only reason I caught his pee was because I’ve made it a habit to put him on the toilet every time I take off his diaper.  It has been a lot harder to recognise Gareth’s cues because I’m often distracted by his gregarious older brother.

There is one sign I’ve come to recognise, though.  Gareth (and Gavin) gives a little shiver, which is almost like a twitch of the shoulders, just before he is about to pee.  Unfortunately, it isn’t enough of a warning to get him to the toilet in time, unless I already happen to be near the toilet bowl and his diaper is off.

Aside from that, we’re cloth diapering with Mommy’s Touch, PrettyPrinted fleece diapers, and TwigandVine Bamboo fitted and Wool diaper covers.

The Mommy’s Touch diapers were the same set that I used when I was cloth diapering Gavin.  Back then, they were the only cloth diapers I could find in Malaysia.  With the wide variety of cloth diapers available now, I probably wouldn’t pick Mommy’s Touch as my choice of cloth diaper because:

  • the one-size-fits-all doesn’t fit newborns (and this is from my perspective with two jumbo babies at birth – 4 and 4.5kgs).  I have noticed that Mommy’s Touch has since come out with a newborn size, though.
  • the snap buttons don’t necessarily offer a good fit around the thighs leaving room for leaks.  I have also noticed that Mommy’s Touch has also come out with velcro diapers but I can’t comment on these as I have never tried them.

I love the PrettyPrinted’s fleece diapers because:

  • they are convenient and fairly quick to put on (which is important now with an extremely wriggly baby that doesn’t tolerate being on his back).  I think about the only thing faster to put on would be velcro diapers or a pull-up.
  • they are breathable.
  • despite it being fleece, they are not as hot as Mommy’s Touch PUL covers.
  • PrettyPrinted also makes them as pocket diapers so you can wash and dry the inserts separately.

Up until recently, I had held off using the TwigandVine diapers I bought because Gareth has a mild case of eczema and the doctor advised against wearing wool.   To be honest, I never would have considered using wool diapers except that my BFF swears by them.  Being the lazy git that I am, I usually prefer an all-in-one diaper system.  Plus, I’ve been spoiled rotten with a domestic helper who washes the diapers for me.  Since she can be a little careless sometimes, I don’t think it is a good idea to let her wash the wool diapers, which means I have to wash them myself.

What’s great about the wool diaper system:

  • it’s cool – yes, wool is one of the coolest diapers around (pardon the pun).
  • it’s breathable.
  • the wool covers we have from TwigandVine are soft and they aren’t itchy at all.
  • unless it is a big mess or heavily soaked through, you don’t need to watch the wool covers every time. You just need to wash the fitted diaper inside.
  • when you lanolinise the wool covers, they are pretty much waterproof.
  • wool is naturally antibacterial due to the lanolin.

The bamboo fitted diapers we have from TwigandVine are so soft that I use them preferentially over the other diapers.  If all my bamboo diapers are in the wash, I use the fleece diapers.  My last choice are the PUL diapers.


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Happy Heiny’s Pull-Up Diapers for Overnight

I’ve been sleeping like the dead overnight and haven’t been getting up to take Gavin to the toilet.  Gavin’s still sleeping through the night without waking up to pee even if he’s completely soaked through the diaper.  In fact, once when I woke him to change his clothes after he was soaked through, he protested and refused to let me get him out of bed.  I ended up changing him on the bed while he slept!

Recalling how my BFF resolved her overnight diaper leakage issues, I decided to add a second microfiber insert into the Happy Heiny’s diapers.  I thought at first it would be too bulky, but it was fine.  Ever since I’ve added the second insert, we haven’t had any further accidents.  Last night was probably the best test for the diaper because Gavin drank a lot of fluids.  He didn’t wake up to pee again but he did wake up this morning completely dry.  His diaper, on the other hand, was so full it felt like there was a brick in it.


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